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ATV Won’t Pull Start – Solved! – ATVFixed.com

Pull starting a big motor isn’t fun at the best of times, but when an ATV engine won’t pull start your efforts can feel like a frustrating waste of time. You’re correct to seek advice, many no-star problems are simple ones. Either way, I’m a mechanic and we’ll get to the bottom of this problem right now!

An ATV may not pull start for the following reasons:

  1. Too much engine oil
  2. Pull starter assembly fault
  3. Ignition system fault
  4. Fuel system fault
  5. Mechanical Issue

In this post you’ll learn some common causes of an ATV that won’t pull-start, you’ll learn how to quickly diagnose where the issue lies and how to go about fixing it.

Page Contents

  1. ATV No-Start Diagnosis
  2. Bucket One - Pull Feels Normal, but engine won't start!
  3. Bucket Two - Pull Feels Really Stiff!
  4. Bucket Three - Pull Not Catching!

ATV No-Start Diagnosis

An ATV may not pull start for several reasons and in this section, we’ll try and get your particular problem to fit into one of three buckets. But just before we get to that we should be sure we have a problem. It is easy in the heat of battle to miss or assume something and so here s a short list of common no-start basics that are often overlooked.

  • Gas valve “On”
  • Choke “On”
  • Ignition “On”
  • Fuel level Ok?
  • Is fuel fresh?
  • Plug wire on securely

Not pulling starter with enough oomph – It should be noted an ATV engine needs to turn over at approx. 400 RPM in order to build sufficient voltage to create a strong bright spark at the spark plug. Less RPM means a weak spark and that will make starting the engine a challenge.

That’s all the simple stuff out of the way. Let’s dig a little deeper and check and see which bucket fits your symptom best.

Bucket 1

Pull starter feels normal but the engine just won’t start – If your pull starter feels normal but just won’t fire, your ATV most likely suffers from a fueling, ignition, or compression issue. Pretty wide-ranging, I hear ya. But go ahead and follow the link to jump down the page where I show you how to quickly find which of these issues you have.

Bucket 2

Pull starter feels funny, it’s stiff and the engine barely turns over – An engine that’s difficult or stiff to turn over is on the face of it, quite serious. That said there are some easy to fix innocent explanations for the stiffness. If the stiff pull starter sounds like your problem, go ahead and jump to the explanations below.

Bucket 3

Pull starter pulls freely and isn’t catching and turning over the engine as usual – This is a common condition and is commonly associated with worn pulley pawls. If your pull starter feels funny and you think this might fit the description of your issue, go ahead and jump to the explanations below.

Bucket One – Pull Feels Normal, but engine won’t start!

You are here because your pull starter feels normal, but she just won’t start – Great! You are in the correct place. All ATV engines require three things in order to start and run smoothly.

  1. Fuel – They need an air/fuel mix to the correct ratio
  2. Spark – They need a strong spark fired at the correct time
  3. Compression – The combustion chamber must have the ability to contain the compression

One of these three is at fault and is the root cause of your no-start ATV.

We could check each of these three systems individually but that takes a ton of time and effort. Instead, we’ll run a test that eliminates one or two of the three. The test is called the gas shot test.

Gas Shot Test

I run this test in the workshop, it saves a ton of time and effort and requires little in the way of tools. The test is as follows:

  • Remove spark plug
  • Add a cap full of fresh gas to the cylinder (syringe or small funnel helps)
  • Refit spark plug
  • Attempt to start the engine in the usual way

Note: it’s important to use fresh gas.

After your attempt to start the engine, two outcomes are likely:

1 Engine Started – The engine started or attempted to start it’s known as firing. Starting or firing both means your ATV likely suffers from a fueling issue. A choke issue is possible, but stale gas is the most likely, especially so if the gas is older than a couple of months. Draining the gas tank, carburetor bowl and refilling will solve the problem. Use a gas stabilizer in the fuel system to help guard against stale gas.

(Firing may be described and identified as follows – engine not running and smoke puffing from the tailpipe as the engine is cranked over.)

(Cranking may be described as – engine rotating by pull start or starter power, but the engine isn’t running.)

2 Engine Does Not Start – Engine made no attempt to start whatsoever. If this is the case, your ATV likely suffers from compression or an ignition system issue. An ignition issue is far more likely, and a fouled spark plug is the most likely ignition problem. And that’s what we’ll check next.

Fouled Spark Plug

A fouled plug is a common problem in all small engine kit and occasional fouling isn’t a concern, if however, it happens a lot then you may have an underlying issue. Spark plugs need a little love from time to time. Typically a plug should be cleaned and gapped every 3 to 6 months and replaced every two years. Of course, I live in the real world and we both know that in most cases doesn’t happen.

A consistently fouling spark plug may be caused by all sorts of reasons from wrong plug type to poor quality gas and a ton of other reasons in between.

To clean and gap a spark plug, you’ll need the following tools:

  • Plug wrench
  • Wire brush
  • Feeler gauge or plug gapper tool

I’ve covered cleaning and gapping a plug in greater detail in this post “Why is ATV spark plug black?”

Check Spark

To check the spark you’ll need to remove the spark plug and ground the plug on the engine.

The process is as follows:

  • Remove plug wire
  • Remove spark plug
  • Reattach plug wire to loose plug
  • Ground the spark plug threads against the engine metal (metal to metal is known as grounding)
  • Ignition switch “On”
  • Have a helper pull start the engine
  • You check plug spark

If you have a spare plug to hand, check spark using it also.

It’s critical to ground the spark plug well, getting this wrong will lead to an incorrect diagnosis.

Two outcomes are likely:

1 The spark plug works great – It emits a bright blue spark. If this is the case you’ll need to move on and check compression, the ignition system works fine.

2 Spark is weak or non-existent – A lack of spark is good news, it means you know why your ATV isn’t starting. The ignition system however includes a few components any of which could prevent spark if failed. I covered checking each component in the following post, it’s a dirt bike but the setup and testing is identical. “Dirt bike won’t start when hot”

New plug torque specs

If you need to check compression you can check out this post where I outline the process. “ATV has spark and fuel but won’t start.”

Bucket Two – Pull Feels Really Stiff!

You are here because your pull starter feels really stiff – Great! This section is for you and here you’ll find more info on each of the more likely possibilities together with a broad outline of the fix.

First, we’ll look at the easier less serious causes:

  • Too much engine oil – Adding too much oil is common and it creates excessive back pressure and difficulty starting. The fix – drain off the excess oil.
  • Hydro-locked engine – This is a condition where the cylinder fills with fluid (raw gas usually) but in ATVs with radiators, the hydro-locking could be coolant and that usually means a failed head gasket. Raw gas usually means a failed carburetor float and needle issue. Either way, fluid in the cylinder prevents the piston from moving. To test for this condition, remove the spark plug and see if fluid spills from the cylinder. The fix – replace the head gasket or replace the carburetor needle valve.
  • Valve lash off – Valves as you know open and close in sequence and at very precise times. When valve adjustment is off it may cause hard to turn over the engine and hard or no start. The fix – Check and adjust the valve lash.
  • Timing off – Engine timing is important, some engines may employ timing chains to time crankshaft to camshaft others may employ internal gears. It is possible for timing chains to jump a tooth and that may cause a no-start and difficult cranking. The fix – check and adjust timing.
  • Stuck closed exhaust valve – Valves sometimes stick closed or open when an engine lays up, say over winter. When pull starts, the closed exhaust valve prevents compression from escaping and in such circumstances, the engine would be difficult to turn over. The fix – release the valve.
Hydro-locking may be caused by gas, coolant, or water entering the cylinder

And now for a list of the more serious causes:

  • Stretched timing chain
  • Camshaft damage
  • Crankshaft damage
  • Piston and bore damage
  • Faulty transmission clutch

Checking ATV crankshaft timing marks

Bucket Three – Pull Not Catching!

You are here because your pull starter feels funny, it’s not catching and cranking the engine over – You’re in the right place!

To confirm this you’ll need to remove the pulley assembly and check both the pawls and the receiver on the engine side. Replacing pawls is a simple job, but you will need replacement pawls and they are engine specific. Other common pull start assembly issues include a broken recoil spring, symptoms of which include a cord that doesn’t retract and a broken pull cord that is self-explanatory.

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Russian view of ATVs – BRP Center YUG

Velomotors released the first Russian ATV Stels ATV 600 Leopard relatively recently - in 2014. A year later, Stealth introduced the Stels Guepard line. At the same time, information appeared in the media about the supply of ATVs to the Russian Army. Such news gave hope for quality. In practice, a new producer cannot compete with the mastodons of the market. But did Stels succeed? Let's check it out by comparing the Stels technique with the reference BRP Outlander ATVs.

Stels Leopard

This is the first ATV designed and assembled in Russia. The line consists of six utility vehicles.

Stels Leopard are built on a welded tubular steel frame. Engines - single-cylinder four-stroke liquid-cooled engines with a volume of 500 to 650 "cubes", with a capacity of 37-42 liters. With. and a maximum speed of 85-90 km / h. The injection system is carbureted, on models 650Y and 650YS - injection. Power system - Delphi. Clutch - centrifugal, automatic. As a transmission - CVT variator. The gearbox has a forced lock.

Suspension Stealth Leopard - independent, on two levers. Shock absorbers are spring-hydraulic. Front travel - 155-165 mm, rear - 165-170 mm. Brakes - disc hydraulic. The capacity of the gas tank is only 14 liters. Ground clearance - 290 mm. Dimensions: 2240x1155x1440 mm. Gross weight - 376 kg. From the factory, Leopards are equipped with a front and rear trunk, a winch, a passenger seat, a tow bar and plastic underbody protection.

Despite the manufacturer's assurances, using the Stealth Leopard ATV is uncomfortable and even dangerous. The plastic used in the production is brittle - it quickly bursts. The bolts are weakly tightened - they are unscrewed and lost. Optics fog up, reflectors crumble - this creates a real danger on the road in the dark.

Other shortcomings include high fuel consumption, a drop in speed due to a vacuum in the fuel tank. One owner's trunk fell off and the frame burst on a run of only 778 km. The engine is constantly overheating, the manifold is red hot. If dry grass gets into the motor in hot weather, the ATV will catch fire.

Stels Leopard 600YS

Can-Am Outlander 650 X mr0006

The BRP Can-Am Outlander range includes a dozen ATVs in a variety of configurations and designs. There are even 6x6 liter models here. But for comparison, we will take ATVs with a similar engine size:

  • Outlander MAX 570 DPS;
  • Outlander 650 X MR;
  • Outlander MAX 650XT;
  • Outlander MAX 650 XT-P.

Outlander Motor - Rotax V-Twin with a volume of 570-650 "cubes" and a power of 48-59 liters. With. Transmission - CVT, stepless. DPS power steering makes driving easier.

Can-Am Outlander front suspension is double A-arm with 229-233mm of travel. Rear - independent on trailing torsion arms, with a stroke of 224-251 mm. In the basic configuration there is a Visco-Lok clutch - it can block the front differential.

A towing capacity of 590-750 kg makes ATVs suitable for the countryside. The capacity of the gas tank is 20.5 liters. Tire size - from 25 to 28". The frame of the SST G2 is built on space beams. Front or rear steel rack with quick-release fasteners LinQ is convenient for carrying oversized cargo. Clearance - 267-299 mm.

The plastic elements are durable and scratch resistant. Removable passenger seat with backrest and handrails frees up space for an additional luggage platform. The dashboard uses a bright LCD display.

Already in the standard configuration, the buyer of the Outlander will receive alloy wheels, mud tires, power bumpers, a WARN winch with electric reinforcement, and an anti-theft system DESS. In the Outlander X MR model, the radiator is moved up and covered with a casing, so water does not get into it when fording.

Stels Guepard

A range of utility ATVs. The design and equipment of all models is different, the engine capacity is from 650 to 850 cubic meters. see

All Guepard Stels are built on a welded tubular steel frame. The engine is a two-cylinder, two-stroke, liquid-cooled. Power - from 51 to 69 liters. s., torque 60-75 Nm, speed - 90-110 km / h. The fuel supply system is injection, compatible with AI-92 gasoline and higher. Ignition - electronic unit Delphi.

Cheetahs V-belt variator has 2x4, 4x4 and 4x4 modes with forced differential lock. Front and rear suspension independent, two wishbones. The travel of the front shock absorbers is 185 mm, the rear ones are 180 mm. Brakes - disc hydraulic. The fuel tank is designed for 30 liters.

The dimensions of the Stels Guepard ATV are 2400x1356x1510 mm, the wheelbase is 1550 mm. Gross weight - 642 kg. The factory kit includes:

  • front and rear luggage platform;
  • winch;
  • passenger seat;
  • plastic bottom protection;
  • wheel arch extensions;
  • front and rear bumper;
  • radiator extension;
  • towbar.

Stels Guepard behaves ambiguously on the road. Owners constantly complain about minor and serious damage. One of them, after the next repair of the ATV, found a knock in the variator area and went to a service center to find out the cause. What came of it - see in the video:

The front suspension is built on A-shaped independent levers, its travel is 221-233 mm. Rear suspension - TTI independent trailing arms, travel - 251 mm. Road bumps are effectively dampened by Fox sports shock absorbers.

Wheel size with mud tires and beadlocks - 26-30”. Ground clearance is 279mm, while the Outlander 1000R X MR has 330mm.

Outlanders are already factory-equipped with:

  • bottom protection;
  • power bumpers;
  • winch;
  • dynamic power steering;
  • Radiator extension for Outlander 1000R X MR;
  • hand protection;
  • arch extensions;
  • Garmin GPS navigator.

Conclusions

Judging by the reviews, Velomotors has something to work on. The Stels Guepard and Stels Leopard quad bikes have good parameters, but the build quality and components are worth the price. You won’t get pleasure from the trip on them, and even going out into nature can lead to trouble: in the summer heat, the ATV can catch fire. We hope that the company's engineers will take into account the errors in their next developments.

BRP Can-Am Outlander is a tried and tested family of utility ATVs. In the line there are models for both easy walks and extreme sports. Yes, Outlanders cost two to three times more than Stealths, but the owner does not have to risk his health and constantly be repaired. Therefore, we advise you to buy a new BRP Outlander all-terrain vehicle on credit or take a used ATV - the safety margin of Canadian equipment will last for many more years.

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Traction batteries for electric quad bikes, tricycles, strollers.

Gel traction batteries for adult electric ATVs, tricycles - rickshaws, self-propelled wheelchairs. DZM series for 12 - 60 volts. Warehouse Vavilov 9BUT

Do not rush to change lead-acid batteries for electric ATVs to super modern lithium batteries. If this is really important for electric bikes, where it is important to win in battery weight, then for heavy quadrics, cargo and passenger tricycles, weight does not play the first role. In addition, changing the type of battery entails changing the charger. Still inexpensive models for seasonal use in our band are produced complete with lead-acid gel batteries. The Pb resource is of course not so large, only 350-400 cycles, but if you use it only in the summer months, then it turns out 90 days a year - 3-4 years. Lithium batteries also cannot boast of long service life with 1000 charge-discharge cycles, the service life is up to 5-6 years. And this is subject to all the rules of operation.
For professional use, when an electric tricycle or cart works around the clock and all year round, a lithium battery, for all its high cost, will quickly pay for itself.

Depending on the supply voltage of the electric motor , there are 2, 3 or 4 batteries of 12 volts in the battery boxes. Respectively 24v/36v/48v. Capacity 12 Ah. They are connected in series, so the total voltage is a multiple of the number of batteries, the capacity is equal to the capacity of one battery.

There are two types of wire terminals. Available for M4 bolt and F2 "6.3 mm knife" type terminals. For powerful electric ATVs, a bolt terminal is preferable, because. allows more current to flow through it without heating. Terminal conversion is possible, our store has everything you need for this. But if there is a battery available for the terminal you need - why redo it. Another case is if the old wires are oxidized - this leads to a strong heating of the battery-wire contact, and a new battery may fail. When charging, poor contact leads to a situation where the charger stops charging sooner than it should, and the batteries are constantly in a state of undercharging.

Pb batteries for ATVs, scooters and scooters :


Container designation confusion. Designated capacity according to versions C5, C10, C20. This is the standard. On battery cases - whoever wants, he means so. Therefore, for comparison, it is necessary to take the capacity of one version from the description of the batteries and compare. For example, RDrive EV12-16 has a capacity of 16 Ah according to version C20.

battery 12-15ah size: 151*98*100mm. Lead-acid without liquid electrolyte.

  • 4 250 ₽

  • 4 136 ₽

  • 3 910 ₽

  • 4 895 ₽

Correspondence table and number of batteries for tricycle models:

  • Adjutant 350W 48V electric tricycle powered by 4 pcs 6-DZF-12
  • Electric tricycle Elbike Adjutant A1 SLA powered by 4 pcs 6-DZF-12 or 6-DZF-20
  • Electric tricycle ELTRECO S2 L1 powered by 4 pcs 6-DZF-20
  • Electric tricycle E-trike TRANSFORMER powered by 4 pcs 6-DZF-20/22
  • Electric tricycle GreenCamel Tender 1 1000W powered by 60v (5 pcs of batteries) with a capacity of 20 to 100 Ah.
  • Electric scooter E-trike Tristar Cabine from 4 pcs 6-DZF-20
  • Trike Passenger electric scooter from 4 pcs 6-DZF-20
  • Rutrike electric scooter Cartridge from 5 pcs 6-EVF-32

Which battery should I buy? For completeness, the table shows three types of batteries:

  • AGM - has a better energy efficiency, the machine will be more dynamic, especially on hills and when driving over rough terrain. But the service life is less than 200-260 cycles. These are the BB Battery HR 15-12 models and the RDrive 6 DZM 12 battery.
  • GEL - for moderate to long driving on flat surfaces or lawn grass, service life 350-400 cycles. Models 6-DZM-12.
  • GEL Graphene is the golden mean between the first and second, but with a good service life of 400-450 cycles. Models 6-DZM-13 BG.

Please note: AGM or GEL technology batteries are maintenance-free, do not emit harmful gases, and are not spilled. These technologies are very similar and are often confused; for traction purposes, it is customary to use GEL batteries.


battery 20-22ah dimension: 181*76*165mm.

  • 6 800 ₽

  • 6 480 ₽

  • 6 248 ₽

  • 7 813 ₽


Batteries for electric tricycles and sidecars:

Passenger and cargo tricycles are powered by more powerful electric motors than ATVs. For a good power reserve, high-capacity batteries are needed. The total voltage of the battery assembly is 48 or 60 volts. These are 4 or 6 batteries connected in series. Because especially good acceleration dynamics and other sporting properties on tricycles, especially trucks, are usually not required, then the choice of gel technology is 100% justified. The marking of such batteries usually indicates voltage and capacity. 6 EVF 45 defines 6 - these are 6 cans inside a monoblock of 2 volts, a total of 12 volts. 45 - capacity for C5. Please do not confuse with C20 capacity. In the world of traction batteries, it is customary to compare batteries according to version C5 or C3.

38-100 Ah EVF battery

  • 11 560 ₽

  • 16 990 ₽

  • 12 160 ₽

  • 10 880 ₽

You can see the full list of batteries in the catalog gel traction batteries.


Battery life depends on a correct charge.

The charger must match the type of batteries being charged. So-called "fully automatic" or "supposedly universal" chargers also automatically reduce battery life. The passport of the charger must indicate what type of battery it is intended for, as well as the voltage and charge currents. Compare this with the data below:

  • For a 24 volt battery pack, the GEL battery charge voltage is 28.2 - 28.8 volts. Gel - does not tolerate overcharging, gases cannot easily leave the case or quickly recombine, heating, deformation and rupture of the battery case occur.
  • For a 36 volt battery pack, the GEL battery charge voltage is 42.3 - 43.2 volts.
  • For a 48 volt battery pack, the GEL battery charge voltage is 56.4 - 57.6 volts.
  • The maximum charge current must be limited to 20% of the battery capacity. Those. a 20Ah battery must be charged with a current of no more than 4 AMPS.
  • It is unacceptable to charge each battery separately, and then collect them again in a group. It is very difficult to charge each battery in exactly the same way, a different degree of charge will lead to uneven wear. When connected in series, the capacity is determined by the weakest battery in the circuit.
  • Battery charging time. The arithmetic is simple: The same 20Ah battery will go from a discharged state to a charged state when charged with 2 amperes in 10 hours. And given the fact that the charger reduces the current as it charges, then more than 10 hours. If you use equipment intensively, make sure that the charge is full, otherwise a decrease in service life is inevitable!
  • If you rarely use the ATV, as well as during seasonal storage, charge at least once every two months with a small current, the charge duration is 1-2 hours maximum. This will extend the service life.
  • Brief operating instructions for batteries in electric drives.
  • The new battery is 80-90% charged, so before starting operation, recharge with the charger for 1-2 hours, until the “charged” indication is displayed.
  • It is NOT NECESSARY to fully discharge the battery and then charge it! (lose one cycle) .
  • DO NOT solder wires to the terminals! Overheating destroys the tire and plates.

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