Can you put 65 tires on 60


Can I put 205/65-16 tires on 215/60-16 wheels? - Maintenance/Repairs

nebin

#1

Sounds to me like the answer is no, but wanted to double check…

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W30post

#2

Overall diameter will be slightly taller. Wheel width should be verified on something like TireRack but this small of a difference in width should not matter. Only consideration would be some loss of contact area on the actual pavement.

Otherwise the tire will fit the wheel from only your description.

dagosa

#3

Check http://www. powerdog.com/tiresize.cgi and see if the overall diameter is close to the same. (they are only .1" difference in radius) Technically, it will fit. It isn’t a bad idea to do this with snow tires as the narrower tire will give better traction. But, in this day and age, cars are so computer dependent upon everything, I would check with the dealer service department for this slight change in tire width and it’s relationship to rim size and performance and warranty if that is applicable. For most car rims, I see NO problem other then a slight loss in handling. There should be very little change otherwise. For many cars, this is well within the parameters of optional tire differences. The big caveat is that you do it with ALL 4 TIRES.

W30post

#4

Agree to do all tires not just one… Forgot that part.

lion9car

#5

A narrower tire may have a lower load index. If it does, make sure it’s still sufficient for your car.

the_same_mountainbike

#6

As Dag said, there will be a slight loss of handling. That “loss” will present as more body roll in turns and leess stability on the highway, especially in the wind.

It’ll also adversely affect your braking ability.

I wouldn’t do it.

nebin

#7

Thanks. I’ll pass on it.

keith

#8

Actually you can, and it has some advantages, but more disadvantages. The advantages are better fuel economy, but that may be so little that you won’t be able to measure it. It would be less likely to hydroplane on you, but again, a very small margin. Slightly better traction on snow, but less on ice.

The disadvantages are lower load capacity and more wear on the edges of the tires. All in all, the differences are very slight, but I would not do it unless the deal on the 205-65 tires is just too good to pass up, i.e. free.

As for handling and stopping distance, about the only people that would be affected by this are drivers who like to drive at the edge of the envelope all the time.

W30post

#9

I think in general you guys are going overboard on this particular question. I’ll give you one vehicle in particular that the manufacturer has 2 different sizes for. Our 95 Crown Victoria comes in either a 215/70/15 or 225/60/16. Yes I see the difference in height of rim but overall the tire diameter is very close. This is overall what the OP is asking but on a specific rim. I have driven our Crown on 215 tires and then upgraded the wheel to a 225 with the 16 inch rim. I didn’t notice much at all in the driving experience.

Will his tire be slightly narrower, yes 0.5 inches but even manufacturers like Ford in this case I sited above have acknowledged it is not that critical in this instance. Will it be slightly taller, yes 0.4 inches overall diameter. Both tires are applicable for the same rim width and both tires in this particular tire selection below have the same load maximum. I feel without any more information from the OP that this tire would be a fit for his vague question.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ProContact+with+EcoPlus+Technology&frontTire=065TR6PCEP&rearTire=16TR6PCEP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&wtpackage=true

CapriRacer

#10

Changes in vehicle behavior are more controlled by differences between tires and not by a simple size change such as this. So while directionally most folks who responded are correct, W30post is also quite possible.

BTW, why didn’t anyone mention that 205/65R16 has an allowable rim width range of 5.5" to 7.5", while a 215/60R16 is 6 to 7.5? There is one rim width where this would not work.

W30post

#11

@CapriRacer the direction he was asking opened up a rim size that the 215 would not fit on. Sorry, thought it was not as important in the direction he was changing to.

simo19742008

#12

205 and 215 no proplem.size 16 no proplem but 65 more higher than 60. like 205 65 16 can fit same 215 and 225.

db4690

#13

The guy will already have made up his mind . . . 4-1/2 years later

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What Is the Difference Between a 65 & 70 Series Tire?

by Jim Arnold

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The series number in a tire-numbering system refers to the aspect ratio of the tire's sidewall height to its width. A series 65 tire's height is 65 percent of its width, a series 70 tire's height is 70 percent of its width and so on. These differences in height affect both performance and safety issues while driving. This tire-size numbering convention is used for automobile, truck and motorcycle tires alike.

Considerations

According to Walmart's advice on choosing the right size tires, several factors go into choosing the aspect ratio for your tire, as often the choice is based on consumer preference. The higher the aspect ratio number, the taller the tire will be. The lower the aspect ratio number, the higher performance the tire will generally be. Both 65 and 70 series tires can be categorized as all-season passenger tires, which generally have aspect ratios between 65 and 80, but a series 65 tire will give better response while a series 70 tire will offer a better, more comfortable ride.

Benefits

According to the Generic Auto Tire FAQs in Type2's Technical Library, the shorter sidewall of the series 65 tire means a slightly wider tire that changes the car's handling considerably; specifically, "more rubber on the road provides a better grip." The series 65 provides better turn-in and stability compared to the series 70. Being a slightly taller tire, a series 70 tire would be a faster tire. Generally, series 70 tires are less expensive than series 65s.

Drawbacks

Since series 65 tires are shorter than series 70 tires, they can make the wheel wells look empty on certain car and truck models, and this is an aesthetic concern for some owners. Generally, series 65 tires are more expensive than series 70 tires. If you're choosing a series 70 because you want a faster tire, your vehicle's performace can suffer if the series 70 tire fits but is not compatible with the tire recommendations for your vehicle.

Warnings

If you're buying tires for a classic or older car that used a different tire-numbering system, series 65 tires in most instances will be too wide, according to the Tire Rack's Tire Size Conversion Chart. Additionally, enthusiasts who wish to change their vehicle's tire aspect ratio to something either higher or lower than what is suggested by the manufacturer should take note that any change from the original size can affect the clearance between the tire, fender, fender wells and suspension components, resulting in performance issues and even slightly inaccurate odometer readings. Those using series 65 tires may wish to consider series 70 tires for winter use, as taller tires are generally recommended for better performance in the snow.

Potential

Because there is greater deflection with the increased sidewall on the taller series 70 tire, it makes for a smoother ride, according to Dunlop Tires. The series 70 tire thus has better potential handling for vehicles carrying heavy loads. On the other hand, the series 65 tire has better potential for providing the crucial edge you need when driving on roads with difficult and sudden turns.

References

  • Type 2 Technical Library: Generic Auto Tire FAQs
  • Tire Rack: Tire Size Conversion Chart
  • Walmart: How Do I Find the Right-Size Tire?
  • Dunlop Tires: Rim Width and Aspect Ratio

Writer Bio

Jim Arnold has been a business and public-relations writer since 1990, working in-house at companies such as Paramount Pictures and Dolby Laboratories. His writing has appeared in "Frontiers," "Daily Variety" and "Prime Health & Fitness." Arnold has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from Marquette University.

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Tire size replacement table

Every motorist eventually comes to the moment when he wants to make a certain upgrade of the car. But any modification entails not only design changes, but also the improvement or deterioration of running gear. But is it possible to change tire sizes? Undoubtedly, this also applies to car tires with disks. Replacing tires and wheels is one of the most popular tuning manipulations. Everyone knows that wider and higher tires give the car solidity and attractiveness, even if the modified vehicle belongs to the budget category. But is increasing tire size really a good idea? Let's look at three options for replacing rubber with a factory dimension of full profile, low profile or extra low profile tire replacement options.

To begin with, it should be understood that the native size is chosen by designers for a reason. It is formed based on the technical capabilities of the car, its traction and acceleration characteristics. Also, the initial size is affected by the shape of the car body, weight, and its purpose.

Tire size is determined by three values, for example, in a tire with a size of 185 65 R14 they will be interpreted as follows:

  • 185 - profile width (not the tread!) in mm;
  • 65 - profile height in % of the profile width;
  • R14 - internal diameter in inches.

Changes to certain parameters have consequences in terms of clutch quality. Moreover, each case is private, there is no specific rule on how this or that modernization will affect the ride. In case of a planned change, it is necessary to consult with a specialist. Below is a table of replacement tire sizes.

Replacing R12 tires

Size 80 60 55 50 45 40
165/70 R12 145/80 R12 175/60 ​​R13 185/55 R13 205/50 R14 195/45 R14 ---------------
175/65 R12 (145 R12) 165/55 R14

Replacing R13 tires

Size 80 60 55 50 45 40
155/70 R13 155/80 R12 185/60 R13 195/55 R13 185/50 R14 195/45 R15
165/65 R13 (155 R12) 165/60 R14 185/55 R14
165/70 R13 145/80 R13 195/60 R13 195/55 R14 205/50 R14 215/45 R15 205/40 R16
175/65 R13 (145 R13) 175/60 ​​R15 175/55 R15 175/50 R15
175/70 R13 155/80 R13 205/60 R13 205/55 R14 195/50 R15 195/45 R16 225/40 R16
185/65 R13 (155 R13) 185/60 R14 185/55 R15 205/50 R15
185/70 R13 165/80 R13 215/60 R13 195/55 R15 215/50 R15 235/45 R15 205/40 R17
195/65 R13 (165 R13) 195/60 R14 205/55 R15 195/50 R16 205/45 R16 215/40 R17
195/70 R13 175/80 R13 205/60 R14 205/55 R15 225/50 R15 255/45 R15 255/40 R16

Replacing R14 tires

0036 80 60 55 50 45 40
195/65 R14 (175 R13) 185/60 R15 215/55 R15 205/50 R16 225/45 R16 225/40 R17
205/65 R14 (185 R13) 205/60 R15 205/55 R16 205/50 R17 205/50 R17 225/40 R18
165/70 R14 145/80 R14 215/60 R13 205/55 R14 205/50 R15 235/45 R15 225/40 R16
175/65 R14 (145 R14) 195/60 R14 185/55 R15 215/50 R15 205/45 R16 205/40 R17
175/70 R14 155/80 R14 205/60 R14 225/55 R14 225/50 R15 255/45 R15 255/40 R16
185/65 R14 (155 R14) 185/60 R15 205/55 R15 205/50 R16 215/45 R16 215/40 R17
185/70 R14 165/80 R14 215/60 R14 215/55 R15 215/50 R16 245/45 R16 235/40 R17
195/65 R14 (165 R14) 195/60 R15 205/55 R16 225/50 R16 205/45 R17 245/40 R17
195/70 R14 175/80 R14 235/60 R14 225/55 R15 235/50 R16 215/45 R17 255/40 R17
205/65 R14 (175 R14) 215/60 R15 215/55 R16 205/50 R17 225/45 R17 225/40 R18
205/70 R14 185/80 R14 245/60 R14 235/55 R15 245/50 R16 245/45 R17 275/40 R17
215/70 R14 195/80 R14 235/60 R15 225/55 R16 265/50 R16 255/45 R17 295/40 R17

Replacing R15 tires

Size 80 60 55 50 45 40
205/65 R15 (185 R14) 225/60 R15 225/55 R16 215/50 R17 255/45 R17 235/40 R18
215/65 R15 (195 R14) 215/60 R16 245/55 R16 225/50 R17 245/45 R18 255/40 R18
165/70 R15 145/80 R15 215/60 R14 215/55 R14 225/50 R14 225/45 R16 255/40 R16
175/65 R15 (205 R14) 195/60 R15 205/55 R15 215/50 R16 215/45 R17 235/40 R17
175/70 R15 155/80 R15 205/60 R15 225/55 R15 225/50 R16 245/45 R16 245/40 R17
185/65 R15 (155 R15) 195/60 R16 205/55 R16 205/50 R17 225/45 R17 225/40 R18
185/70 R15 165/80 R15 215/60 R15 235/55 R15 245/50 R16 235/45 R17 265/40 R17
195/65 R15 (165 R15) 205/60 R16 215/55 R16 215/50 R17 245/45 R17 235/40 R18
195/70 R15 175/80 R15 225/60 R15 225/55 R16 255/50 R16 245/45 R17 285/40 R17
215/65 R15 (175 R15) 215/60 R16 225/50 R17 255/45 R17 255/40 R18
205/70 R15 185/80 R15 235/60 R15 245/55 R16 265/50 R16 245/45 R18 265/40 R18
225/65 R15 (185 R15) 225/60 R16 225/55 R17 225/55 R17 255/40 R19
215/70 R15 195/80 R15 235/60 R16 235/55 R17 255/50 R17 255/45 R18 295/40 R18

Replacing R16 tires

Size 80 60 55 50 45 40
215/65 R16 (195 R15) 205/55 R18 235/50 R18 245/40 R20
205/70 R16 195/80 R15 235/60 R16 235/55 R17 255/50 R17 255/45 R18 285/40 R18
215/65 R16 (195 R15) 205/55 R18 235/50 R18 255/40 R19

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Tire and rim size charts

  • Cars
  • 4x4
  • Commercial vehicles

Passenger cars (table of tire and rim sizes)

Diameter Size Rim width
Min. recom- mend
Max.
12 125 R12 3.5 3.0 4.0
135 R12 4.0 3.5 4.5
145 R12 4.0 3.5 5.0
155 R12 4.5 4.0 5.0
145/70 R12 4.5 4.0 5.0
155/70 R12 4.5 4.0 5.5
13 145/80 R13 3.5 4 5
145/70 R13 3.5 4.5 5
145/60 R13 4 4.5 5
155/80 R13 4 4.5 5
155/70 R13 4 4. 5 5
165/80 R13 4 4.5 5
165/70 R13 4 5 5.5
165/65 R13 4.5 5 6
175/70 R13 4.5 5 6
175/65 R13 5 5 6
185/70 R13 4.5 5.5 6
14 145/65 R14 4 4.5 5
155/65 R14 4.5 4.5 5.5
165/70 R14 4 5 5.5
165/65 R14 4.5 5 6
165/60 R14 4.5 5 6
175/80 R14 4.5 5 6
175/70 R14 4. 5 5 6
175/65 R14 5 5 6
175/60 ​​R14 5 5 6
185/70 R14 4.5 5.5 6
185/65 R14 5 5.5 6.5
185/60 R14 5 5.5 6.5
185/55 R14 5 6 6.5
195/70 R14 5 6 6.5
195/65 R14 5.5 6 7
195/60 R14 5.5 6 7
15 145/65 R15 4 4.5 5
155/70 R15 4 4.5 5
155/65 R15 4.5 4.5 5. 5
165/65 R15 4.5 5 6
175/65 R15 5 5 6
175/60 ​​R15 5 5 6
175/55 R15 5 5.5 6
185/65 R15 5 5.5 6.5
185/60 R15 5 5.5 6.5
185/55 R15 5 6 6.5
195/70 R15 5 6 6.5
195/65 R15 5.5 6 7
195/60 R15 5.5 6 7
195/55 R15 5.5 6 7
195/50 R15 5.5 6 7
195/45 R15 6 6. 5 7.5
205/70 R15 5 6 7
205/65 R15 5.5 6 7.5
205/60 R15 5.5 6 7.5
205/55 R15 5.5 6.5 7.5
205/50 R15 5.5 6.5 7.5
215/70 R15 5.5 6.5 7
215/65 R15 6 6.5 7.5
225/60 R15 6 6.5 8
225/55 R15 6 7 8
225/50 R15 6 7 8
16 195/60 R16 5.5 6 7
195/55 R16 5.5 6 7
195/50 R16 5. 5 6 7
195/45 R16 6 6.5 7.5
205/60 R16 5.5 6 7.5
205/55 R16 5.5 6.5 7.5
205/50 R16 5.5 6.5 7.5
205/45 R16 6.5 7 7.5
215/65 R16 6 6.5 7.5
215/60 R16 6 6.5 7.5
215/55 R16 6 7 7.5
215/40 R16 7 7.5 8.5
225/60 R16 6 6.5 8
225/55 R16 6 7 8
225/50 R16 6 7 8
235/60 R16 6. 5 7 8.5
245/55 R16 7.5 8 9
17 205/55 R17 5.5 6.5 7.5
205/50 R17 5.5 6.5 7.5
205/45 R17 6.5 7 7.5
205/40 R17 7 7.5 8
215/60 R17 6 6.5 7.5
215/55 R17 6 7 7.5
215/50 R17 6 7 7.5
215/45 R17 7 7 8
215/40 R17 7 7.5 8.5
225/60 R17 6 6.5 8
225/55 R17 6 7 8
225/50 R17 6 7 8
225/45 R17 7 7. 5 8.5
225/35 R17 7.5 8 9
235/65 R17 6.5 7 8.5
235/55 R17 6.5 7.5 8.5
235/50 R17 6.5 7.5 8.5
235/45 R17 7.5 8 9
235/40 R17 8 8.5 9.5
245/55 R17 7 7.5 8.5
245/45 R17 7.5 8 9
245/40 R17 8 8.5 9.5
255/55 R17 7 8 9
255/45 R17 8 8.5 9.5
255/40 R17 8.5 9 10
265/40 R17 9 9. 5 10.5
275/40 R17 9 9.5 11
285/40 R17 9.5 10 11
335/35 R17 11 12 13
18 205/40 R18 7 7.5 8
215/45 R18 7 7 8
225/60 R18 6 6.5 8
225/45 R18 7 7.5 8.5
225/40 R18 7.5 8 9
225/35 R18 7.5 8 9
235/65 R18 6.5 7 8.5
235/50 R18 6.5 7.5 8.5
235/45 R18 7.5 8 9
235/40 R18 8 8. 5 9.5
245/50 R18 7 7.5 8.5
245/45 R18 7.5 8 9
245/40 R18 8 8.5 9.5
245/35 R18 8 8.5 9.5
255/45 R18 8 8.5 9.5
255/40 R18 8.5 9 10
255/35 R18 8.5 9 10
265/40 R18 9 9.5 10.5
265/35 R18 9 9.5 10.5
275/45 R18 8.5 9 10.5
275/40 R18 9 9.5 11
275/35 R18 9 9.5 11
285/40 R18 9. 5 10 11
285/35 R18 9.5 10 11
285/30 R18 10 10 10.5
295/35 R18 10 10.5 11.5
295/30 R18 10.5 10.5 11
315/30 R18 11 11 12.5
335/30 R18 12 12 12.5
345/35 R18 11.5 12 13.5
345/30 R18 12 12 12.5
19 225/40 R19 7.5 8 9
225/35 R19 7.5 8 9
235/35 R19 8 8.5 9.5
245/45 R19 7.5 8 9
245/40 R19 8 8. 5 9.5
245/35 R19 8 8.5 9.5
255/40 R19 8.5 9 10
255/35 R19 8.5 9 10
255/30 R19 8.5 9 9.5
265/35 R19 9 9.5 10.5
265/30 R19 9 9.5 10
275/50 R19 7.5 8.5 9.5
275/40 R19 9 9.5 11
275/35 R19 9 9.5 11
275/30 R19 9 9.5 10
285/35 R19 9.5 10 11
295/30 R19 10.5 10.5 11
305/30 R19 11 11 12
315/25 R19 11 11. 5 12
325/30 R19 11 11.5 12
345/30 R19 12 12 12.5
20 235/30 R20 8.5
245/40 R20 8 8.5 9.5
245/35 R20 8 8.5 9.5
245/30 R20 8 8.5 9
255/35 R20 8.5 9 10
255/30 R20 8.5 9 9.5
275/45 R20 8.5 9 10.5
275/35 R20 9 9.5 11
285/30 R20 10 10 10.5
285/25 R20 10.5
295/25 R20 10. 5 10.5 11
305/35 R20 10 11 12
305/25 R20 10.5 11 11.5
325/25 R20 11.5 12 12.5
335/30 R20 12 12 12.5
21 245/35 R21 8 8.5 9.5
255/30 R21 9 9 9.5
285/30 R21 10 10 10.5
295/25 R21 10 10.5 11
22 255/30 R22 8.5 9 9.5
295/25 R22 10.5 10.5 11

4x4 (Tyre/Rim Size Chart)

Diameter Size Rim width
Min. recom- mend
Max.
15 185/65 R15 5 5.5 6.5
195/80 R15 5 5.5 6.5
195/70 R15 5 6 6.5
205/70 R15 5 6 7
215/80 R15 5.5 6 7
225/75 R15 6 6 7.5
235/75 R15 6 6.5 8
255/75 R15 6.5 7 8.5
265/70 R15 7 8 9
16 205/80 R16 5 5.5 7
215/70 R16 5. 5 6.5 7
215/65 R16 6 6.5 7.5
215/60 R16 6 6.5 7.5
225/75 R16 6 6 7.5
225/70 R16 6 6.5 7.5
235/85 R16 6 6.5 7.5
235/70 R16 6 7 8
235/60 R16 6.5 7 8.5
245/70 R16 6.5 7 8
255/70 R16 6.5 7.5 8.5
255/65 R16 7 7.5 9
265/70 R16 7 8 9
275/70 R16 7 8 9
17 225/65 R17 6 6. 5 8
225/55 R17 6 7 8
235/65 R17 6.5 7 8.5
235/55 R17 6.5 7.5 8.5
245/65 R17 7 7 8.5
255/60 R17 7 7.5 9
255/50 R17 7 8 9
265/65 R17 7.5 8 9.5
265/70 R17 7 8 9
275/65 R17 7.5 8 9.5
275/55 R17 7.5 8.5 9.5
18 225/55 R18 6 7 8
235/60 R18 6.5 7 8.5
235/50 R18 6. 5 7.5 8.5
255/60 R18 7 7.5 9
255/55 R18 7 8 9
255/45 R18 8 8.5 9.5
265/60 R18 7.5 8 9.5
285/50 R18 8 9 10
19 255/55 R19 7 8 9
255/50 R19 7 8 9
275/45 R19 8.5 9 10.5
285/45 R19 9 9.5 10.5
20 255/50 R20 7 8 9
275/50 R20 7.5 8.5 9.5
275/40 R20 9 9. 5 11
295/40 R20 10 10.5 11.5
315/35 R20 10.5 11 12.5
21 295/35 R21 10 10.5 11.5
22 285/35 R22 9.5 10 11
295/30 R22 10 10.5 11
23 315/25 R23 11 11.5 12

Commercial vehicles (tire and rim size chart)

Diameter Size Rim width
Min. recom- mend
Max.
13 155/80 R13 4 4. 5 5
165/70 R13 4.5 5 5
14 165/70 R14 4.5 5 5
165/75 R14 4 4.5 5
175/65 R14 5 5 5.5
175/75 R14 4.5 5 5.5
185/75 R14 4.5 5 6
185/80 R14 4.5 5 6
195/75 R14 5 5.5 6
195/80 R14 5 5.5 6
205/75 R14 5 5.5 6.5
15 185/80 R15 4.5 5 6
195/70 R15 5.5 6 6
205/65 R15 5. 5 6 6.5
205/70 R15 5.5 6 6.5
215/65 R15 6 6.5 7
215/70 R15 6 6.5 7
225/70 R15 6 6.5 7
16 6.5/100 R16 4.5 4.5 6
175/75 R16 4.5 5 5.5
175/80 R16 4.5 5 5.5
185/75 R16 4.5 5 6
195/60 R16 5.5 6 6.5
195/65 R16 5.5 6 6
195/75 R16 5 5.5 6
205/65 R16 5.5 6 6. 5
205/75 R16 5 5.5 6.5
215/60 R16 6 6.5 7
215/65 R16 6 6.5 7
215/75 R16 5.5 6 7
225/60 R16 6.5 6.5 7.5
225/65 R16 6 6.5 7
225/75 R16 6 6 7
235/65 R16 6.5 7 7.5

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