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How to Check ATV Ball joints (Like a pro!) – ATVFixed.com

Clanking noises, vague steering doesn’t fill you with confidence as you give your ATV the beans on a dirt trail.

To check ATV ball joints, lift and support the chassis. Ball joints are fitted to steering and suspension components. Test procedure differs for both.

  • To check steering ball joints, grip the tire a 3.15 and move from side to side. Free-play indicates wear, the ball joint needs to be replaced.
  • To check suspension A-arms, grip the tire at six o’clock and rock top to bottom. Free-play indicates ball joint wear.

In this post, you’ll learn how to check the ball joints of your ATV, how to change them, the tools you’ll need, and some mechanics hacks.

Page Contents

  1. Ball Joints
  2. Testing Upper & Lower Ball Joints
  3. Testing Steering Ball Joint
  4. Replacing Ball Joints
  5. Replacing A-Arm Ball Joint
  6. Fitting the Ball Joint Into The A-Arm
  7. To Replace a Tie Rod Ball Joint

Ball Joints

Ball joints, as you know, are fitted to your suspension but also your steering components. You could argue they are the most important component of your ATV. And although they are a common repair on ATVs, total failure of a ball joint is rare.

A dangerously worn ball joint will make its presents known for quite some time before it lets go. Fitting oversized wheels and tires while adding stability shortens the life of ball joints. The added weight and stress take their toll on the ball joints.

Testing a steering ball joint is slightly different from testing a suspension, only in so far as they are loaded differently.

Testing Upper & Lower Ball Joints

I like to first ride the bike and listen for any unusual squeaks or clanking noises, and I’ll feel for excessive pulling or vagueness in steering. All ball joints have a rubber boot that contains grease. It’s designed to lube and protect the metal ball and socket from water and grit. Stiff steering is a common symptom of a seized ball joint (usually the lower A-arm).

In the workshop, I’ll jack and support the front of the vehicle. I go ahead and visually inspect the rubber boot for tears or any sign of leaking grease. A torn boot, as you can imagine, allows water and grit in, which does two things, causes corrosion and premature wear. Finding a tear or grease means this ball joint is either already worn or soon will.

To test the joint, we’ll grab the wheel at six o’clock and rock it top to bottom. If you sense free-play or feel a definite knock, you’ve found a worn ball joint.

A worn wheel bearing is possible too, so you may need to verify a ball joint and you can do that by placing your fingers on the ball joints while a helper rocks the wheel. Movement will be felt in the worn joint.

Testing Steering Ball Joint

Your ATV may have several ball joints on the steering system (more on that later), but it will have a ball joint at the wheel knuckle, and it’s known as a tie rod end. The test drive will usually show some vagueness in the wheel if you have steering ball joint wear.

To test steering ball joints, grab the tire at 3. 15 and move it from side to side. If you sense free play or feel a knock, you have a worn ball joint.

You’ll need your helper again, have them move the wheel side to side while you watch and feel each joint.

ATV steering systems will employ several ball joints, and so you will likely have inboard ball joints to check too. It’s not unusual to find all the ball joints worn to some degree. It’s OK to replace the worst joints, but the mechanic in me wants to say change them all out.

Replacing Ball Joints

Ball joints aren’t all the same. You know that. Replacing a suspension control arm (A-arm) will differ from a steering tie rod end ball joint.

Replacing A-Arm Ball Joint

An A-arm ball joint is pressed, fitted into the arm, and secured with a C clip. Removing these guys can be done with basic household tools, but it will require removing the A-arm from the bike. The correct tool for the job is a bushing puller, it saves removing the A-arm and makes the job move like butter. But for the purpose of this guide, we’ll go MacGyver style.

Replacing either upper or lower ball joint goes like this:

  • Remove wheel
  • Remove the caliper, (but not brake line) set aside and support with bungee cord
  • Remove tie rod, by removing the nut and hitting knuckle sharply until arm falls loose
  • Remove lower shock bolt, and set aside using a bungee cord.
  • Remove upper ball joint (pinch bolt or nut), strike knuckle sharply to release
  • Remove inner A-arm bolts and remove the arm
  • Remove the snap from the ball joint using snap ring pliers
  • Spray WD40 on the joint on both sides
  • Support the back of the ball joint, using a suitably large pipe (could use a deep socket)
  • Hammer on the ball joint pin until it drops into the socket cavity

Fitting the Ball Joint Into The A-Arm

  • Clean and lube the socket
  • Support the underside of the A-arm socket using a suitable size deep socket that will accommodate the ball joint pin as it passes through.
  • Place the ball joint squarely on the A-arm socket
  • Place a suitable size socket (or pipe) on the back of the new ball joint. It needs to sit on the flange.
  • Strike the socket firmly and check its seating squarely before repeating the process until it seats.
  • Fit new snap ring and be sure it seats, be mindful some snap rings may have an inner and outer face, check your instructions.

If you have access to a shop press, you can eliminate all the hammering.

Note: When refitting the A-arm chassis bolts, don’t tighten until the weight of the bike is resting on the ground.

To Replace a Tie Rod Ball Joint

Replacing the steering a tie-rod ball joint is a lot less work than an A-arm suspension ball joint.

The procedure goes like this:

  1. Open the tie-rod lock-nut but only back off a half turn
  2. Open and remove the tie-rod ball joint nut, may have split pin
  3. Strike the knuckle sharply to release the ball Joint
  4. Turn the tie-rod anticlockwise to remove

When fitting the new tie rod, use the witness mark of the old to position the new. Ideally, the bike should be aligned after fitting steering components.

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What Are SuperATV Ball Joints Made Of?

We have four main types of ball joint that each use slightly different design and materials. Here are what each of our ball joints are made of.

Standard-Duty Ball Joints

  • 4130 chromoly steel housing
  • 4340 chromoly steel stud with a black oxide finish

Heavy-Duty Ball Joints

  • 4340 chromoly steel housing
  • 4340 chromoly steel stud with a black oxide finish

Super-Duty Ball Joints

  • 4340 chromoly steel housing
  • 300M steel stud with a black oxide finish

Threaded Ball Joints

  • 4340 chromoly steel housing
  • 4340 chromoly steel stud with a black oxide finish
SuperATV ball joints are made with top-of-the-line materials. They use chromoly steel housings and 4340 or 300M studs depending on which ball joint you use. They’re tested and proven to outperform stock and go the extra mile.
Photo by SuperATV

What Are Threaded Ball Joints and Where Are They Used?

SuperATV’s threaded ball joints are designed to thread into your A-arms instead of pressing in. This makes them more secure in the A-arm and makes them easier to install and remove—you don’t need a big press, just a M36 socket.

They’re made just for SuperATV’s threaded A-arms (which come with threaded ball joints installed, by the way), and can’t be used on any other A-arms.

They use a similar construction to our heavy-duty ball joints:

  • 4340 chromoly steel housing
  • 4340 chromoly steel stud with a black oxide finish

Between the heavy-duty materials and the threaded housing, they are about three times stronger than a stock RZR 1000 ball joint.

Threaded ball joints boost strength by threading into A-arms instead of pressing in. They’re still easily greasable and serviceable using the threaded cap and grease fitting at one end. And you can just remove the pin and tighten the cap to get your stud to like-new movement.
Photo by SuperATV

How Do You Press In a Ball Joint?

Pressing in a ball joint can be a pain if you’re not prepared.

If you don’t have any kind of press tools, you can usually get away with using a socket or section of pipe and a hammer to get ball joints in or out. However, it’s not the best idea and can cause damage because of how imprecise it can be.

Instead, you can get a ball joint service kit for less than $100. These kits include a handheld mechanical press along with various fittings and adapters designed to fit whatever ball joints you have. These are easy to use and effective. They can even be used with your A-arms still installed.

If you want to run a serious garage and you need a press for a number of different reasons, you can invest in a hydraulic shop press. They can be had for as little as $200 but if you’re taking up the floor space, it’s worth investing in a high quality one.

With the right tool, pressing in a ball joint is as easy as lining it up, pressing it in as far as it will go, and securing it with a snap ring.


How Can You Tell if a Ball Joint Is Bad?

Your first clue that you have a bad ball joint on your side-by-side is that you’ll here it rattle. The rattle is caused by the stud bouncing around in the housing. This is a sure sign that the stud and housing are too worn down to continue to use.

You may also notice a catch when you turn the wheel as you have to overcome the excess suspension slop caused by the bad ball joint.

Once you know you have a bad ball joint, you just have to figure out which one it is. To do that, lift your vehicle and move your front wheels by hand. Look for any movement around the ball joint that doesn’t belong. Remember: the stud should pivot in the housing, not move side to side or up and down.


What Kind of Warranty do SuperATV Ball Joints Have?

Our warranty specifically covers defects in materials and workmanship under normal use. That means if it falls apart because you hit a tree or after years of riding it in mud every day for years, it’s not covered.

If a ball joint falls apart for no obvious reason within the warranty period, then it may be covered.

The warranty duration varies depending on the ball joint:

  • Standard-duty ball joints—3 months from date of purchase
  • Heavy-duty ball joints—1 year from date of purchase
  • Super-duty ball joints—lifetime warranty
  • Threaded ball joints—1 year from date of purchase

How Do You Grease or Service a SuperATV Ball Joint?

SuperATV’s Heavy-Duty, Super-Duty, and Threaded Ball Joints are greasable and serviceable.

The bottom of each ball joint has a threaded cap that has a flat grease fitting in it. Even when they’re installed on an A-arm, they’re easily greasable with grease gun.

To dissassemble the ball joint for cleaning and servicing, the set screw on the side of the housing must first be removed. Then the entire cap can be unscrewed. This lets you clean out any dirty grease before repacking.


How Do You Adjust a SuperATV Ball Joint?

Only heavy-duty, super-duty, and threaded ball joints are adjustable.

The steel cap on the bottom of the housing can be threaded in or out to adjust the tension of the stud. After years of riding, the ball joint on the stud will naturally wear down, causing it to move more freely and potentially plunge in and out. All ball joints wear this way eventually.

To fix this, simply remove the set screw, then tighten the cap to return the ball joint to like-new levels of movement.

To adjust a SuperATV Ball Joint, you have to remove the pin and tighten or loosen the threaded cap. The stud should move freely, but it shouldn’t plunge in and out at all.
Image by SuperATV

What’s the Difference Between Heavy-Duty and Super-Duty?

The difference between Heavy-Duty and Super-Duty ball joints is the stud material.

Heavy-duty ball joints use a 4340 chromoly steel stud while Super-Duty ball joints use a 300M stud. The Super-Duty ball joints are approximately 20% stronger than the Heavy-Duty ball joints on the same machine.

They both use the same housing including the grease fitting and adjustable cap, so you get the exact same usability and features.


Should the Stud Move Freely in the Housing?

The stud should be able to pivot in the housing. It should not be able to plunge in and out at all. If it does plunge, you need to tighten the housing until it doesn’t, even if that stiffens the studs movement.


Can I Order Replacement Boots?

We have replacement boots for Heavy-Duty and Super-Duty ball joints only.

If you would like to order replacement boots, give us a call at 855-743-3427.

Ball on a quad bike - replacement, maintenance and repair with your own hands

Buying a quad is a simple matter. However, this technique requires special attention and regular maintenance of all nodes and elements. This is especially true for the ball joint.

The ball joint of an ATV is an extremely important element of the suspension of this motorcycle, on the serviceability and stability of which even the life of a rider can directly depend. Therefore, timely maintenance and repair of this component must be given maximum attention.

Due to the extreme operating conditions of an ATV, the ball joint may fail more often than on other types of motorcycles. The impact on it of abrasive substances of the road surface also plays a role in the wear of this element.

Construction of ball joint

Ball joint on ATV stealth consists of the following components:

  • body with polymer elements;
  • insert;
  • ball pin;
  • hinge;
  • plug;
  • boot.

Since the ball joint undergoes significant dynamic loads during the operation of the ATV, the presence of too much clearance between the parts, which is most often found in Chinese motorcycles, can significantly reduce its service life. Please note that the ball joint is present on both full-size and children's models of ATVs. In both cases, it is very important to monitor its condition by performing timely repairs and maintenance.

When this element of the vehicle suspension is worn out, during its movement, the driver begins to hear suspicious sounds, such as knocking or crackling. There is also a noticeable wobble in the steering wheel.

ATV Ball Repair

Before repairing a 150cc ATV ball, it must be disassembled. On some models of such motorcycles, the hinge has a collapsible design, making it easy to get to worn parts and replace them. Most often, motorists need to replace the anther, liner and lubricant.

ATV ball joint repair with a one-piece joint is carried out as follows:

  • carefully cut off the lower part, which is a plug;
  • the condition of the finger is visually checked. If necessary, it must be replaced with a new one;
  • a metal ring with a thread inside is welded;
  • bottom and top liners are made. At this stage, you can turn to the turner for help. Solid types of plastic, such as caprolon or tekamide, are perfect as a material;
  • you will also need to make a special plug that will be used to tighten the ATV ball joint bushings.

After performing this repair with a partial redesign of the ball joint, you can significantly improve the factory performance of this functional ATV component. Now, in case of wear, it will be enough to slightly tighten the liner, thereby significantly extending the life of the ball vehicle.

We recommend that you lubricate the hinge in a timely manner using high-quality oil, and do not save on buying a good silicone boot. Therefore, if you decide to purchase adult motorcycles or buy an ATV for a child, be prepared for the fact that you will have to pretty delve into its insides.

Ball joint replacement

The replacement of the ball joint on the ATV is necessary when it is not possible to repair it. This component of the motorbike breaks down both due to wear and tear over a long period of operation, and as a result of liquid and dirt getting inside the boot. That is why it is required to lubricate the ball components from time to time, and change some of them as needed.

As soon as it became clear that something was wrong with the ATV ball, it is recommended to solve this problem as soon as possible, since its malfunction can cause many other more serious breakdowns of motorcycles.

Replace the ball motorbike as follows:

  • hang the front of the vehicle and remove the wheel;
  • then it is necessary to dismantle the decorative cap of the rim and remove the nut from the hub;
  • remove the brake caliper by unscrewing a pair of hex bolts;
  • dismantle the hub and brake disc;
  • Loosen and unscrew the nuts that secure the upper and lower ball joint;
  • Remove the nut from the tie rod end and separate it from the steering knuckle. After that, this part will also need to be removed;
  • Disconnect the retaining rings located at the seats of the ATV balls;
  • it is best to press out ball joints using a hydraulic press, but in its absence, you can use the most suitable materials at hand;
  • after installing a new support, it is necessary to assemble the ATV in the reverse order.

When assembling a motorcycle, pay special attention to the integrity of its rubber cuffs, as well as the presence of abundant lubrication on all functional units.

Both repair and replacement of ATV ball joints can be done on your own if you have certain skills. If you doubt that you can perform such manipulations with your own hands, then the best solution would be to contact a service center for help.

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Alteration of the front levers for a replaceable ball joint from Toyota Hilux

deepgreen_ wrote:

Hello to everyone who reads these lines :smile3:

There is a successful experience of converting a conventional NSGV front suspension arm into a replaceable ball joint.

In a nutshell:

the decently worn original ball joint is removed and an adapter ring is welded in its place to fit the new ball joint into tension. The new ball is pressed into the adapter and fixed with a retaining ring on the side of the steering knuckle. Such a connection makes it possible to subsequently change the ball joint to a similar one an unlimited number of times instead of buying a new lever assembly, which has a positive effect on the budget :wink3:

As a replacement ball joint, SB-3881 from the Japanese manufacturer 555 is used. The manufacturer offers it for use in the Toyota Hilux suspension, but the most important fitting dimensions are also suitable for the Grand Vitara. Since the ball was originally intended for a heavier car with large suspension travels, this also affected the ball - the bearing surface of the ball is approximately 30% larger than the Grand Vitarovskaya, the angles of the finger are also larger (how much exactly, I can’t say, since I didn’t specifically measure ).
All this can be considered a nice bonus, as it should have a positive impact on its resource.

The adapter ring must be specially sharpened (see "drawing") according to the calculations, from steel with an elastic limit of at least 230 MPa .

Requirements for the welding seam between the adapter and the arm itself:

1) Weld with an electrode with a diameter of 4 mm. You can also use a 5 mm electrode, but this will not add strength to the connection.
Electrode type - UONI, since the seam made by it has good impact strength.
2) The length of each of the two welds around the ring is at least 5 cm.

Fulfilling these requirements will create a joint that will withstand a shear force of about 4 tons.

In general, I drive on such levers for about six months - about 8 t.km. No negative side effects have been observed so far.

Z.Y. And yes, the rework budget is 642 rubles. for each ball 555 SB-3881 (now it costs 1200 rubles) and 500 rubles. for the manufacture of each transition ring. Total 1142 rubles on the lever. Well, plus the time to study the design, calculations and the actual work on the alteration.

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deepgreen_ wrote:

Hello to everyone who reads these lines :smile3:

There is a successful experience of converting a conventional NSGV front suspension arm into a replaceable ball joint.

In a nutshell:

the decently worn original ball joint is removed and an adapter ring is welded in its place to fit the new ball joint into tension. The new ball is pressed into the adapter and fixed with a retaining ring on the side of the steering knuckle. Such a connection makes it possible to subsequently change the ball joint to a similar one an unlimited number of times instead of buying a new lever assembly, which has a positive effect on the budget :wink3:

As a replacement ball joint, SB-3881 from the Japanese manufacturer 555 is used. The manufacturer offers it for use in the Toyota Hilux suspension, but the most important fitting dimensions are also suitable for the Grand Vitara. Since the ball was originally intended for a heavier car with large suspension travels, this also affected the ball - the bearing surface of the ball is approximately 30% larger than the Grand Vitarovskaya, the angles of the finger are also larger (how much exactly, I can’t say, since I didn’t specifically measure ).
All this can be considered a nice bonus, as it should have a positive impact on its resource.

The adapter ring must be specially sharpened (see "drawing") according to the calculations, from steel with an elastic limit of at least 230 MPa .

Requirements for the welding seam between the adapter and the arm itself:

1) Weld with an electrode with a diameter of 4 mm. You can also use a 5 mm electrode, but this will not add strength to the connection.
Electrode type - UONI, since the seam made by it has good impact strength.
2) The length of each of the two welds around the ring is at least 5 cm.

Fulfilling these requirements will create a joint that will withstand a shear force of about 4 tons.

In general, I drive on such levers for about six months - about 8 t.km. No negative side effects have been observed so far.

Z.Y. And yes, the rework budget is 642 rubles. for each ball 555 SB-3881 (now it costs 1200 rubles) and 500 rubles. for the manufacture of each transition ring. Total 1142 rubles on the lever. Well, plus the time to study the design, calculations and the actual work on the alteration.

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